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		By: Dawid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh yes, I live in England 6 months already and I think this CCTV is madness. But the same is happening in Poland my country of origin but not so big scale hopefully.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, I live in England 6 months already and I think this CCTV is madness. But the same is happening in Poland my country of origin but not so big scale hopefully.</p>
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		By: Andy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rant allowed :) thats what the comment box is for..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good points about the CCTV, i picked up the 300 times a day from a journalistic article and agree it could well be an urban myth.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In London however we are monitored almost everywhere we go and having worked with the police on crime mapping i&#039;m aware that know one knows where all the CCTV cameras are or how many.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I find this alone quite shocking...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Andy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant allowed 🙂 thats what the comment box is for..</p>
<p>Good points about the CCTV, i picked up the 300 times a day from a journalistic article and agree it could well be an urban myth.</p>
<p>In London however we are monitored almost everywhere we go and having worked with the police on crime mapping i&#8217;m aware that know one knows where all the CCTV cameras are or how many.</p>
<p>I find this alone quite shocking&#8230;</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		By: simondlambert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Andreas notes that living in England means you are recorded on some CCTV system all the time.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well, I&#039;m afraid Andreas is patently wrong about this. Not only is it a practical impossibility; but one only has to recall, for instance, how many incidents worthy of investigation by the police are hampered by the absence of video evidence.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;More surprisingly you state: &quot;Which we have to say is true, the average person in the UK is recorded on CCTV 300 times a day.&quot; Rubbish. After 20 years immersed in the CCTV industry I can assure you that this is an urban myth repeated by undiscerning journalists until they believe their own tosh. The academic work that led to this magic figure can easily be shot to pieces. Please stop repeating this nonsense to people innocent enough to believe your incorrect assertion.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rant over, but it needed clarifying. Apart from that, I very much enjoy the blog. Keep up the good work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Andreas notes that living in England means you are recorded on some CCTV system all the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m afraid Andreas is patently wrong about this. Not only is it a practical impossibility; but one only has to recall, for instance, how many incidents worthy of investigation by the police are hampered by the absence of video evidence.</p>
<p>More surprisingly you state: &#8220;Which we have to say is true, the average person in the UK is recorded on CCTV 300 times a day.&#8221; Rubbish. After 20 years immersed in the CCTV industry I can assure you that this is an urban myth repeated by undiscerning journalists until they believe their own tosh. The academic work that led to this magic figure can easily be shot to pieces. Please stop repeating this nonsense to people innocent enough to believe your incorrect assertion.</p>
<p>Rant over, but it needed clarifying. Apart from that, I very much enjoy the blog. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		By: Martin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Andreas,&lt;br/&gt;thanks for your contribution, I knew the PlaNet Network would be interested.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Andy, I emailed your Blog-URL to my felllows from the PlaNet Network (http://www.planningnetwork.org) as well as to some young people from ISOCARP (http://www.isocarp.org/), knowing they can contribute interesting examples for the Worlds Worst Urban Spaces.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andreas,<br />thanks for your contribution, I knew the PlaNet Network would be interested.</p>
<p>Andy, I emailed your Blog-URL to my felllows from the PlaNet Network (<a href="http://www.planningnetwork.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.planningnetwork.org</a>) as well as to some young people from ISOCARP (<a href="http://www.isocarp.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.isocarp.org/</a>), knowing they can contribute interesting examples for the Worlds Worst Urban Spaces.</p>
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