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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Data is everything, it is the key to knowledge and understanding, spatial laboratories such as ours at CASA where digital urban is currently based cannot survive without it. We consume...</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org/blog/2007/11/08/bottom-line-its-all-about-data/">The Bottom Line – Its all about Data</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org">Digital Urban</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://datalib.ed.ac.uk/GRAPHICS/blue_data.gif"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://datalib.ed.ac.uk/GRAPHICS/blue_data.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;">Data is everything, it is the key to knowledge and understanding, spatial laboratories such as ours at <a href="http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/"><span><span>CASA</span></span></a> where digital urban is  currently based cannot survive without it. We consume data at an e</span><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;"><span><span>ver</span></span> increasing rate, process it, analysis, <span><span>manipul</span></span></span><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;">ate and merge it to visualise and ultimately aid our <span><span>underst</span></span></span><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;"><span><span>anding</span></span> of the city.<o:p></o:p></span>    </p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>Data is a valuable asset and without it spatial analysis would simply not exist. Google has been the analysts’ friend of late with its acquisition of high resolution aerial photography providing a base for <span><span>othe</span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-GB">r <span><span>datasets</span></span> and that all important sense of location. As such aerial imagery is one <span><span>dataset</span></span> that no longer have to worry about, unless of course it is needed for visualisation outside of a Google product.</span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>The use of Google’s license for aerial <span><span>imag</span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><span><span>ery</span></span> is however just one <span><span>dataset</span></span>, research labs generally obtain data from linking up with other partners or providers and piggy backing on other license agreements and it is here where the danger lies. The need to consume and apply data often brings with it complications on copyright, intellectual property rights and licensing. We spend a lot of our hours negotiating rights to use various <span><span>datasets</span></span> online, as is the wired <span><span>na</span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><span><span>ture</span></span> of our lab, and it is here that the waters muddy.</span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>Some providers are happy to help, seeing the chance for PR by linking with an independent centre and others get tied up in legal discussions and the problems of vector vs raster. The rise</span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> of <span><span>KML</span></span> as a standard has been particularly problematic with the web 2.0 world being based on the sharing and reusing of information, this is something many data providers have a problem with as it cuts into their bottom line.</span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>Our now well documented example of <a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-disappointed-ordnance-survey.html">Virtual London, Google and The Ordnance Survey</a> is a case in point. Vector data on the Internet is a difficult proposition, it does effectively give away the <span><span>dataset</span></span> &#8211; free to be opened by users in software such as <span><span>SketchUp</span></span> and then ultimately re-imported into more high-end Geographical Information Systems such as <span><span>ESRI</span></span>’s <span><span>ArcScene</span></span>, unless it is locked behind a Google server.</span><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMDu635vmI/AAAAAAAAA00/ne0arU6nL1Y/s1600-h/wide1.jpg"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMDu635vmI/AAAAAAAAA00/ne0arU6nL1Y/s400/wide1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130448505117720162" border="0" /></a></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>We understand these issues, data collection costs can be high and companies need to make a</span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> return on their investment, but the online world is changing, it is becoming a social world with economies of scale far beyond those of even the largest companies.</span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/">Open <span><span>StreetMap</span></span></a> is a prime example of an organisation that has embraced the concept of mass participation – <a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/2007/04/book-review-wikinomics.html">known as <span><span>wikinomics</span></span></a>. <span><span>OpenStreet</span></span> map has had its critics, mainly from the large data providers putting to question both its accuracy and completeness. We are all for the underdog and it is of note that when </span><span><span>Dair</span></span> Grant made a <a href="http://www.refnum.com/osm/gmaps.html">comprehensive and detailed comparison</a> of the <span><span>OpenStreet</span></span> Map for <span><span>Haywards</span></span> Heath, Sussex with that of the <span><span>TeleAtlas</span></span> derived Google Map he found 89 apparent differences and inaccuracies.</p>
<p face="arial"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMC4K35vlI/AAAAAAAAA0s/aLL4ibrTz1Q/s1600-h/opstm.jpg"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMC4K35vlI/AAAAAAAAA0s/aLL4ibrTz1Q/s400/opstm.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130447564519882322" border="0" /></a> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial;"><o:p> </o:p>Open <span><span>StreetMap</span></span> and such like are the future of data, mass collected, verified by the community at large and open source for all to use regardless of application. In a few years time we will look back at the men in suits and smile as the Web 2.0 world changes the data landscape.</p>
<p><a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMAC635vkI/AAAAAAAAA0k/RzgSoQjyMSw/s1600-h/SLmap.jpg"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMAC635vkI/AAAAAAAAA0k/RzgSoQjyMSw/s400/SLmap.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130444450668592706" border="0" /></a></p>
<p style="font-family: arial;">As we write our lab has just managed to import 3.3 million buildings from <a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/search/label/Virtual%20London">Virtual London</a> into Second Life via <span><span>KML</span></span> &#8211; see the latest post<a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/2007/11/virtual-london-in-second-life-rezzing.html"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span> Virtual London in Second Life &#8211; <span>Rezzing</span> a City of 3.3 Million Buildings</a> for full info and a <span>demonstration</span> movie.This raises more data issues than we care to mention, we have a feeling it could eat up most of our week….</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org/blog/2007/11/08/bottom-line-its-all-about-data/">The Bottom Line – Its all about Data</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org">Digital Urban</a>.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Data is everything, it is the key to knowledge and understanding, spatial laboratories such as ours at CASA where digital urban is currently based cannot survive without it. We consume...</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org/blog/2007/11/08/bottom-line-its-all-about-data-2/">The Bottom Line – Its all about Data</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org">Digital Urban</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://datalib.ed.ac.uk/GRAPHICS/blue_data.gif"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://datalib.ed.ac.uk/GRAPHICS/blue_data.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;">Data is everything, it is the key to knowledge and understanding, spatial laboratories such as ours at <a href="http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/"><span><span>CASA</span></span></a> where digital urban is  currently based cannot survive without it. We consume data at an e</span><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;"><span><span>ver</span></span> increasing rate, process it, analysis, <span><span>manipul</span></span></span><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;">ate and merge it to visualise and ultimately aid our <span><span>underst</span></span></span><span  lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:arial;"><span><span>anding</span></span> of the city.<o:p></o:p></span>    </p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>Data is a valuable asset and without it spatial analysis would simply not exist. Google has been the analysts’ friend of late with its acquisition of high resolution aerial photography providing a base for <span><span>othe</span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-GB">r <span><span>datasets</span></span> and that all important sense of location. As such aerial imagery is one <span><span>dataset</span></span> that no longer have to worry about, unless of course it is needed for visualisation outside of a Google product.</span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>The use of Google’s license for aerial <span><span>imag</span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><span><span>ery</span></span> is however just one <span><span>dataset</span></span>, research labs generally obtain data from linking up with other partners or providers and piggy backing on other license agreements and it is here where the danger lies. The need to consume and apply data often brings with it complications on copyright, intellectual property rights and licensing. We spend a lot of our hours negotiating rights to use various <span><span>datasets</span></span> online, as is the wired <span><span>na</span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><span><span>ture</span></span> of our lab, and it is here that the waters muddy.</span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>Some providers are happy to help, seeing the chance for PR by linking with an independent centre and others get tied up in legal discussions and the problems of vector vs raster. The rise</span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> of <span><span>KML</span></span> as a standard has been particularly problematic with the web 2.0 world being based on the sharing and reusing of information, this is something many data providers have a problem with as it cuts into their bottom line.</span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>Our now well documented example of <a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-disappointed-ordnance-survey.html">Virtual London, Google and The Ordnance Survey</a> is a case in point. Vector data on the Internet is a difficult proposition, it does effectively give away the <span><span>dataset</span></span> &#8211; free to be opened by users in software such as <span><span>SketchUp</span></span> and then ultimately re-imported into more high-end Geographical Information Systems such as <span><span>ESRI</span></span>’s <span><span>ArcScene</span></span>, unless it is locked behind a Google server.</span><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMDu635vmI/AAAAAAAAA00/ne0arU6nL1Y/s1600-h/wide1.jpg"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMDu635vmI/AAAAAAAAA00/ne0arU6nL1Y/s400/wide1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130448505117720162" border="0" /></a></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p>We understand these issues, data collection costs can be high and companies need to make a</span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> return on their investment, but the online world is changing, it is becoming a social world with economies of scale far beyond those of even the largest companies.</span><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/">Open <span><span>StreetMap</span></span></a> is a prime example of an organisation that has embraced the concept of mass participation – <a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/2007/04/book-review-wikinomics.html">known as <span><span>wikinomics</span></span></a>. <span><span>OpenStreet</span></span> map has had its critics, mainly from the large data providers putting to question both its accuracy and completeness. We are all for the underdog and it is of note that when </span><span><span>Dair</span></span> Grant made a <a href="http://www.refnum.com/osm/gmaps.html">comprehensive and detailed comparison</a> of the <span><span>OpenStreet</span></span> Map for <span><span>Haywards</span></span> Heath, Sussex with that of the <span><span>TeleAtlas</span></span> derived Google Map he found 89 apparent differences and inaccuracies.</p>
<p face="arial"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMC4K35vlI/AAAAAAAAA0s/aLL4ibrTz1Q/s1600-h/opstm.jpg"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMC4K35vlI/AAAAAAAAA0s/aLL4ibrTz1Q/s400/opstm.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130447564519882322" border="0" /></a> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial;"><o:p> </o:p>Open <span><span>StreetMap</span></span> and such like are the future of data, mass collected, verified by the community at large and open source for all to use regardless of application. In a few years time we will look back at the men in suits and smile as the Web 2.0 world changes the data landscape.</p>
<p><a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMAC635vkI/AAAAAAAAA0k/RzgSoQjyMSw/s1600-h/SLmap.jpg"><img decoding="async" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ADwvfqkxChw/RzMAC635vkI/AAAAAAAAA0k/RzgSoQjyMSw/s400/SLmap.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130444450668592706" border="0" /></a></p>
<p style="font-family: arial;">As we write our lab has just managed to import 3.3 million buildings from <a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/search/label/Virtual%20London">Virtual London</a> into Second Life via <span><span>KML</span></span> &#8211; see the latest post<a href="http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/2007/11/virtual-london-in-second-life-rezzing.html"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span> Virtual London in Second Life &#8211; <span>Rezzing</span> a City of 3.3 Million Buildings</a> for full info and a <span>demonstration</span> movie.This raises more data issues than we care to mention, we have a feeling it could eat up most of our week….</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org/blog/2007/11/08/bottom-line-its-all-about-data-2/">The Bottom Line – Its all about Data</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.digitalurban.org">Digital Urban</a>.</p>
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